Q: Was that here in the house? Daller: Well, its just the fact that the South Shore has gotten very built-up. Theres a bunch of little houses now built all along through their gardens. And that was a couple people from Tottenville, caused all that. Daller: Thats been acquired over the years. Burke: Yes. I did everything. I had the house put back together. Big fluted columns with big Corinthian capitals on them. And my father died, and we were all very young. And thats where she was. She said, You saw her in your dream. I said, Holy shit, I said, you think that was her? She said, It could have been her. I said, Then she went like that and chased me out of her house. She said, That was her. Mon-Fri, 7am-6pm MDT . And Ed was very good at taking dents and things out of cars and he could spray paint. Burke: Oh, my nephew. So, unfortunately, there arent many people that care that way anymore. And they copied that from France, because thats what it was, it was the French mansard. Find the obituary of William Burke (1966 - 2021) from Staten Island, NY. Daller: Well, yes. They cant do anything. And it was quite difficult to maintain the big house we were living in. Q: And you knew the style from having studied the history of design and architecture. And we cant come over here because both of them lived way out in New Jersey, and theyd come every day. Burke: Ed. So I went up with Father Tom and I had to take care of all those Eskimos, if any of them got sick or hurt this or that. And then I shipped it all back home. So we lived there, and it was a big courtyard and there were four buildings and the center courtyard was all grass. I dont know what the hell Ill do if you do that. We are a big family. Q: Can you tell me about moving the collections here, out of storage and out of your sisters houses into this house? Anyway, there was three things that I found by doing some worklike, giftsI forget what they were. If you were at the water looking up here, you couldnt see the house. So he came out. But again, I dont know that Staten Island appreciates anything, because we had a Borough President at one time that we asked him a question about something and his answer to my uncle was, Well, why would you want to put a new suit on an old man?. Unfortunately. I dont know what it is. Q: Your collection of the items that you bought from Mrs. Murphy. But I dont remember seeing the main house. Why cant they just appreciate something for what it is? She married her husband Thomas Burke on April 24, 1965, and had five children. Q: And so all these items went upwalked up the stairs and were, carried back down the stairs. Shit. Burke: Let me think of how all that started. Right? And then, on the third floor, which was in the mansard roof, that was all the servants quarters. Im gonna go look. So I went out and I said toI had two roommates, and I said to my roommates, Wheres my box? And they said Oh, well, Sergeant Joiner came in and took it. I said, Oh, no! I went running out. And there was French doors that went out from the basement under the porch. What the hell is that coming from? So I come down the stairs, and as I got down the stairs, the spelling got stronger and stronger. Chris was the one that got involved with it. And then I was able to get all my stuff out of storage and out of peoples homes where I stored them, and furnished the house and moved and lived in the whole house, took care of it. And thats what I did. What was. My big old Victorian house is saved, and thats still there. They had The [Charging] Bull in the city and they had the little [Fearless] Girl there. I had just bought this house, and it needed a lot of work. So as long as I own it, I own it, theyll pay for it. But it only reached a certain point of it, not in the very beginning. A necklace with a gold heart that opened like a. Its going to hell. So I run downstairs. It is listed on the National Register of Historic Places and is a member of the Historic House Trust. You buy me out. And he bought me out. And I, throughout the time, I went from room to room in the house and restored it. My sisterher mother [indicates Daller], Francesmy sister living in the Bronx, she got me a little apartment and she got me a job working for Saks Fifth Avenue. Because people will come in, and therell be four or five people and somebody will walk by and just pick this up, and pick that up. It would have been spectacular but greed set in, and thats what they did. He did the White House and everything. I was seventeen years with the Air Force. He did so much work for you. So every time she wants to go riding, she has to go all the way to New Jersey, ride her horse, and then come all the way back. They really dont know what history is all about. And with that money, I restored most of the house. But they tore the house down to build that school. I mean, one year, the oil bill here was $11,000. If you are going to stay, you better do this this and this, whatever the hell it was. Burke: Yes. But the story that was cuteremember the lady in England, the antique dealer, that used to bring her bottles all the time? I woke up with a sweat. That came in part from the attorney. I cant think ofdoesnt matter, the name of the people. And people were coming from all over the island. Daller: That was the house that had ghosts. And she had this woman who was a caretaker. Well, on theon the fireplace there, those two big candelabras, theyre Meissen. I had all the walls done. Help NYPAP document and celebrate NYCs preservation movement. And all those Eskimos just loved me. Staten Island, Richmond County, NY Genealogy Site - Staten Island Recent Obituaries The real estate lady wouldnt come in. And we recognized Mario at the event. And she wanted to start running things and taking things over. And, then I gotwhod I get from the city? Q: So what was it like when you had the house finished and furnished? Facebook gives people the power to. And how people went along with them, I dont know either. Daller: It just went right out of my head! Burke: Yes, she held the mortgage on it. And after he died the family still lived like we had my fathers money involved. Isnt that a huge house theyre building, you told me? Burke: And what is a shame islike, you take [one of our former boarders], she has two horses that she used to keep here all the time. So I said, The hell with this. Daller: Its life estate that he has. I mean, I couldnt do stuff like that all the other stuff I could do. Theyre all gone. If it wasnt for Mrs. Mackey across the street telling me about the funeral, I would have never known. The one in particular, United States Steel [Corporation]. Were going to this estate. And finally, we met with John Krawchuk, when he became in office. Were not going to stay and put up with these two people. Daller: But he has albums upstairs, photos. Daller: Yes. But it doesnt work that way. Its a big plaque on it, its landmarked and everything. And I worked there for quite a while, and I lived in the Bronx. And I renovated the bar, I renovated the other side, my two sisters came to work for me, running the kitchen and the dining room. Daller: Well, you got involved with Burkes Landing with Scalia. I think so. I dont think anythings missing? And I took that room and made it into the dining room. We were only allowed so much. But that was a big improvement, putting in the kitchen, because there never was a kitchen in the houseand where the kitchen is now, that was the laundry room. That whole salon set there was a Victorian salon setand the couch is a camelback. She stated, George, I want you to save my house, and agreed to sell the house for a feasible sum in exchange for his promise to restore it. What are we gonna do here? So he said, Well, I really love doing this, George. And I said, Okay, John, thats fine. So I couldnt take any of the clothes. Daller: And he formed the board in order to support the house. And he kept up with him, up until the time Mario passed away. Oh my god. And that was the Air Force. The mansion, oh god. But, God, that was almost 100 years ago, you know? And I want my painting. But things that, well, were thatyou needed carpenters that knew, that were good carpenters. And that was only one of them. And it was the most amazing party. And I took the money. And we had our barracks, of course, and having your barracks, the only thing you had was a big trunk where you kept all your clothes in. She was living in the house untilshe owned it until she died, and then I would take it over. And then the Historic House Trust will use it as well to understand whats important to you about maintaining the house. Will they appreciate it? And they added this big dining room to the other side of the house. And if you were wearing them and you went and got in your car and turned the heater on, you smelled like piss. That was a bigits still there. And I had to have somebody upstairs, standing on the stairs, and told me when to stop jacking, when the stairs got level, because the stairs were like this. And I never had timesometimes Id be sleeping on the pool table there because I just couldnt leave! In fact, my mother worked there. I could make another funeral parlor out of that. And I said, No, lets not make a funeral parlor. Burke: Of course, Id been in Alaska for all that time. And he did these two chairs. And I said, Well, the smell is still there. And I said to her, Whatever happened to the old girl? And she said, Well, years ago, when she died, she said, she was laid out in the front parlor in the coffin, and it was nothing but lilacs. So when he left the apartment and came to Staten Island, things started to move back into different sisters again until he was ready to relocate it again. The Seguine girls, as they were called,. And when I seen it all over there, and when I seen the British people were poor as church mice, they were selling everything. Well. Ill make you the drapes. The drapes are still up there. Remember him? So there wasnt a lot of time spent here. And my other sisternow, of course shes passed awaybut now her daughter took it, and the daughter gave it to her daughter. Burke: Yes. That wasyou probably dont rememberthere was this great big factory right down here, built on the beach. Or next to the chair where she was sitting. One of the doors was shot, so I took this door off, and when I did, the brick wall, on the side, started falling out. She was a nasty old lady! But that was funny. Just as long as its saved and its here. Burke: Well, I hope it gets maintained. So everything just kept going off and someone would have all of this, someone would have all of that. So they went into repairing things. Get service details, leave condolence messages or send flowers in memory of a loved one in New York. And one day. And thats what where all the water, for all the laundry, and all that kind of stuffnot the drinking water, the working waterwould come out of that big cistern, and would go intoand the pump and everything, its still down there, connected to that thing out there. And then finally she sold the house and she bought a beautiful place in Greenwich Village and moved to Greenwich Village. Yes. And these roofs had big arches, like this. And that was the end of them. Yes. So theres no more Scalamandr, I dont think, is there? Destroyed. February 26, 2023 (70 years old) View obituary. They bought a house. All these walls used to be white. The columns werent square wooden ones, like these, they were beautiful fluted ones with all the Corinthian leaves on the tops of them and all that stuff. In fact, I think it was just landmarked wasnt it? Lets stay friends. Q: Yes. Theres a ghost in there. And I said, Well, I dont believe in ghosts. Q: Yes. Everything has to be environmentally done properly, so by the time you figure it out, youre spending more money, when youre making no money because you have no horses. And I could turn the horses loose and theyd keep all the fields cut and mowed, you know? Im joining the Air Force. So I went out and I joined the United States Air Force of course. And thats where I had all this wonderful carved stuff from the Eskimos that they gave me. And everyone became extremely close. So I figured, hmm! So I went down in Rossville and I bought a beautiful, big old, rundown place and restored it completely. Theyll take care of it and be able to show tours. All the grounds, the stables, everythingthey cant change a thing. Because she begged me. And there was a whole other floor, another story, and its built with the French style, in the French mansard. And I wanted these little chairs tufted but he had passed away before he could get around to tuft. No, its not something were talking about right now. You want to take down every statue thats been there for a thousand years because, No, that statue shouldnt be there. And Im glad I did what I did, about just giving it to the National Historic Trust. Daller: It was like, we cant even find him anymore. Q: You mentioned that the South Shore has changed in the last few years. Q: What do you think the role of this house is, in this part of Staten Island? She had a caretaker or she had a woman that took care of her, or something. That was all what she had in mind! How the hell they got to the right people, I dont know. Christ, a good ten, twelve years. We were doing other parties at the time, the only thing we still maintain is the White Party. Got a good price for a couple of other real estate pieces that I bought and fixed up and sold. And a lot of it got given away, got lost. Casey Funeral Home Kathleen Burke, age 78 passed away at Richmond University Medical Center after a brief illness on January 26, 2023. Ill help renovate it, fix it up and such. And thats what we did. So I made sure it was filled in with dirt the rest of the way, so I wouldnt have that water getting in the basement. And no ones going to be able to talk about it, and point things out, and say where it came from, or whats the history behind it. A lot of the windows were broken out of it. He was predeceased by his mother Lena Russo-Tredici. Well, the paintings and the small stuff like thatthat like that mirror and those paintings and all that stuffthat was all the little stuff. And thats what this house is. I mean, I could do a little woodwork, but I wasnt a carpenter. This the expensive piece of property! They sold it to the developers. And getting an American Dollar from being in the service, getting my payeven though it wasnt that muchbut at that time, over there, it was worth a fortune. So if this can remain a part of the history, thatll be great for people to appreciate. They are Chinese Chippendale. I bought another restaurant, didnt I? He upholstered that chair with the things in the back. And all the time when all the lilacs would come in the spring, and the whole place would smell of lilacs, its gorgeous, still is. Yes, of course, they could eat all the grass. Burke: Of course, I come from a big house. So it took a fortune, but I had it, all that money, to restore the house. Burke: Im glad I did. So thats my uncles hope for it as well. That was the most beautiful mansion. Sign up for NYPAP mailings and our Newsletter to stay up-to-date. I thought for sure that would never go. Burke: Yes. And in the basement, I put the kitchen and a dining area and everything. He said, when he was moving here, he told the people there, he goes, Im moving. I was Well work it out, one way or another. And so the two of us started and we madecalled it the Old Bermuda Inn because John loved Bermuda and he was putting a lot of money in it. Oh shit, Im going to have to rebuild the wall. So I started pulling the bricks out, and wrapped up where one of the bricks was, was an oil cloth rag all wrapped up. Burke: I dont find any difference living here. So I would walk around, Id look and Id see some beautiful stuff for sale, for nothing. Theyre all McMansions. You can go and look and read about anything about the South Shore of Staten Island. If you give me a big helping hand here. I said, You know, I dont make that much money. I mean, how did you decide what to purchase, what to collect? The developers came in with bulldozersbulldozed that mansion, bulldozed the stables. Its no different from home. So while I used to work then with them, and then I decided, this is not for me. Beloved husband of Rosanna (Ialuna) Burke. Its Greek Revival. And that was inwhere the hell, what did they call that area where all the Eskimos lived? When he came he got everything going. So as long as you have people, youre going to have change, and people are going to say, That doesnt work! And all this beautiful stuff, I used to put in a big box. [laughs]. And they said, Well, we cant handle it, George. And that still is, today, one of the great places around here, the Old Bermuda Inn, and John still owns it. So by the time he came back, all this had changed. I was always in the operating room or someplace like that. Daller: Oh, thats exactlyI mean, because that was the reason for getting a board, was to also help get things done. Tell me when you want me to start. Thats the only thing people could bring. Daller: Oh, theOh God now, whats it called? And if they only would have remained, they would have been a part of it, and everything could have been fully appreciated. I had the best collection of the most beautiful carved ivory and things because they didnt have money but they would give you things. And one day, I was sitting in the dining room. You couldnt see the grounds through the trees and it was just covered and everything. The story about the coat that you had from Alaska? Born in the Province of Pola, Italy, "George" settled in the Bronx. This was the farmhouse. And, well, lets face it, they never had any hot water over there at all. She was great, I loved her. Constantly. Burke: Oh. And is there a way where, according to how you would like the house to be maintainedwould everything stay in its place? Burke: Right across the creek. And when youd come down, there wasthe stairwell come down, and it was a double parlor, like this, and where this door was, was with two double doors. So whenever the big surgeons traveled, I always traveled with themtraveled all over Europe. And that painting of me, thats upstairs in my bedroomdid you ever see it? I cant remember her name. So I had people come in and wanted to buy the Tidewater Inn. And theyd come out and Id get involved with them. So Walter was re-stationed to Fort Lauderdale in Florida. George Burke was born on Staten Island and grew up in Annandale before moving to Florida with his family. In fact, he was just a few years older than I, and wasnt it last year we were trying to locate him? So she finally died. But I dreamt it and I knew every single thing about it. And that way, it wouldnt burn the houses down. Is there anything else that you would like to add about the house as it is now, the history, or the future of the house? But when I die, they say theyre going to make a museum out of it. I had a dream thatin my dream, I woke up and I was laying in bed upstairs, and I could smell lilacs. Daller: Plus the fact, it cost a fortune to take away the manure. Because thats what I bought with the money. George: Oh, I knew the Seguines for years. Youre coming with me. So Id say Okay, Murphy, lets go! She was something, I mean. Find the obituary of William Burke (1966 - 2021) from Staten Island, NY. The mansion was gorgeous! Find your ancestry info and recent death notices for relatives and friends. And, of course, being in the military and traveling with them, the government shipped all my stuff that I bought and picked upshipped it all back to America for me. And here was the street. They cant build houses on it. Click here to view all obituaries Search Obituaries Contact Us / Location. The ceilings had fallen down because a lot of the drain pipes had leaked. From what youve described, the different places that have been demolished over the years were extremely different from each other. Burke: Oh, when I was a kid, we lived in Annandale. Q: I mean, I live in a small apartment, so what is it like to live in a kind of museum quality home? Did quite well. Q: [laughs] How did you figure out what needed to be done with the house? If you want to come in a business with me, John, lets make into a beautiful restaurant. So he said, Okay, Ive never owned a restaurant, but Id be willing to try it, George. So I said, Well, John, youre gonna have to put a lot of money in it because you have all the money, as being who you are. All these empty buildings and things. It was terrible. Like this chair that youre sitting in, these are Chippendale chairs in the Chinese style. And the porch went all like this, around the house. Thats why I did what I did, because I figured that if anything ever happens to me, all of this, now, will have to stay as it is. Adriana would come out and shed say, Well, Ill tell you what, George. I mean, we had clocks, baby-Ben clocks, hanging in apartments. Q: So its budgets and the contractors, all that stuff. I have questions about closets too! Was her name Mackey? They cant develop it. One day, he was gone. And they were the big windows that lookedand that was a whole, bigjust like here, it was another story. Burke: Yes, he did that little sofa there. There was nine of us in the whole family. With that old fabric, theres enough to make drapes for one window. Coach Robert Joseph "Bob" Burke, 74, died April 4, 2020, at home, surrounded by his loving family, in Wilson, N.C. Oh, God, it was gorgeous. So I found this big beautiful, French, mansard roof, big Victorian house in Tottenville. But because I was military, the military shippedwhen they moved me, they moved all my stuff. Theyd work out, and theyd be waiters, or this and that. Absolutely gorgeous. Yes. And, minute he bought the house, did a little work in it, put it right up for sale. I mean, this whole ceiling was shot. And that was it. And I had to laugh. I said, Well, the only one I know that talked like that is Bess Seguine. She said, Well, this is me. I said, What is it, Bess? She said, I want you to come and save my house. I said, Are you kidding, Bess? I said, as a kid growing up, we were always down on the beach, looking back up at this big white house that looked like a big Southern mansion. And then the people that moved out left a bunch of old furniture, and these were the two that they left. And I said, What in the hell is this doing in my house? So I opened up the lid and there was this old lady laying in there, with this big lace collar around her neck, and her hair was puffed up behind her head, like that, was all gray. George Burke. See Photos. Save my house. And I thought, Oh, shit. I was down on the beach one day, I forgot what were doing. And one day I got a call from Mrs. Seguine. Q: So part of why it closed was because. Burke is joined in this interview by his niece, Linda Daller. Daller: Yes. Burke: Well, most of the stuff in the house, he worked with me. I restored the whole housewell, how long did I live there? You could ask for their house and youd get it. Obituary George W. Burke, age 63, of Hull, entered into eternal rest on October 2, 2021. Daller: Thats a story you should share, about the lilacs and the lady. So thank you. Too bad that there wasnt somebody with a brain. That is the only thing that worries methat the house will be stripped. I restored all those buildings down in Tottenville, all those great old buildings. I mean, look, theyve been trying to get rid of the carriage horses in the city, for how long now? Q: The stuff that you got in England, from Mrs. Murphy. They moved in there, and they lived there. But the problem is, its so limited on Staten Island. Either you buy me out, or I buy you out. Im giving nothing away. Yes, but that was all the legal aspect of it. And I was so damn busy, I never got to go home. On a goddamn pillared mattress sleeping? Hell utilize every room of the house. But I forgot what the other two things were. Im always doing something. And then Iwhatd I do then, Ioh, I paid for this house, didnt I? See Photos. So they. I forgottheres ten acres that is landmarked now. I went around and I got it and shipped it all back home. And as I said, for a thing of whiskey or a bottle of wine, theyd give you anything, because none of them have had it for years and years. No, it wasnt that. George Burke. So I said, whew! Theyre getting rid of everything! https://www.nypap.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/BurkeGeorge_20211109_access_redacted.mp3. Daller: So not that much time was spent on Staten Island. Im gonna save this house. And they were good investments. And I never got along with her that much because everything I wanted to do, she said, No, no, no, I dont like that. Of course, I went to school here. And my uncle came in and was part of the whole group. Burke: Okay. Its some very wealthy unknown-known person who was there. Ario George Lazzari Ario George Lazzari, 82, passed away on February 26, 2023 at NYU Langone Hospital in Brooklyn, New York. Q: Yes. Daller: Yes, well, thats what we just said, yes. Thanks very much to you. Q: Can you give me an example of one of the things that you worked on together in the house? And because of that, and especially the interior design thing, I went around, did little jobs, and did things, and because I learned so much by going to that to school there, that when I got back here, I got nice little jobs here and there. Daller: What about the coat? So I go downstairs. I did go around and take pictures of what was left of some of them. He moved into the house shortly after the sale, and worked from the basement to the roof, and outwards throughout the grounds and stables, to complete the restoration. Now theyre worth a couple hundred-dollars apiece. But that was biga big, two-bedroom condo. Interviewing George Burke, and. And I took that for years. We have a choice in having a caretaker come in also to maintain it. But anyway, she said, No, Im not going in. They were all along the waterfront here. But it looked like an attic with the roof like that and everything. And if you went around with Mario Buatta, that was like going with the President of the United States. She spent most of her life as a homemaker. So we need to get help. Burke: Mario Buatta and a couple of people of his friends that were just as big. It was similar, only bigger and more ornate. The stables were here for years. And she said, George, do you know who this is? and with her big Southern accent. Burke: Well, when it came to really heavy construction, like this whole wall being rebuilt and things, I had to hire carpenters and I had to hire plasters to plaster the ceiling. When I bought the house, the real estate people, they wouldnt go in. Must have been twelve big columns, it was, oh! Daller: No, that still has to be discussed. It was unbelievably gorgeous. 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