And usually you don’t have a good mood. And I would also bring up that research that I mentioned, I think last year or two years ago, when we spoke last and did a recording where in… These are still preliminary studies. This is kind of the executive color. It’s a perfect place to be doing that. So they’re very inflammatory. That’s not possible for many people in your community right now. And so we’ve seen people very slowly, gently increase their exposure in thereby reduce their heat intolerance. And it helps you cope with stress in an efficient way instead of a bad way. It seems to be making this really manageable. I decided to start my own company to develop my own. Brian: That’s it for today. So we’re here for you to reach out to us, we have a lot of resources to get you what you need or help you just with answers and help you in your own research and deciding what’s the best product for you. And they began to atrophy. Hormesis, the gentle stress of ourselves that’s provided through the photon, through the sauna is a very helpful, gradual, gentle way to get into that hormetic stress. And the sessions are short. I feel grateful that we’re already out in the community had some product out there before this hit. Sometimes I’m irascible, I’m known to be…, Brian: Just a part of my passion. It’s all organic of course. And there’s one really interesting one. Brian: That’ll be marketed pretty soon on the website. Learn more and shop at https://go.sauna.space/wahlswarrior, The Benefits Of Light & Sauna Therapy For Autoimmune And Chronic Conditions, https://terrywahls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/wahlsweblogo.png, https://terrywahls.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/ss-facebook-featured-scaled.jpg. Dr. Wahls: Turns out to be a very helpful adjunct to prevention and to improving your resolution. So my question to all of you who are listening is. It seems to make you feel happier. So you have those improved cognition things as well but in a neuropsychiatric realm, people are using this to deal with their mood issues, depression, anxiety, stress, people are manic, and are really anxious or maybe apathetic. So this is a huge public health issue. And then I launch into my workday. And this is something that we’ve had for a long time. We of course need to have the attacking phase that can kill the microbes and dissolve the severely damaged cells. It makes you feel good. Now, it’s a lot more sophisticated in many ways. And I think you are getting outside, are you getting fresh air? The wife who’s her own MMA fighter said that she couldn’t believe how quickly your hair is growing. It fundamentally changed how I thought about disease and health. Because we haven’t evolved to deal with those really, especially the electromagnetic stress. Now, what I’m hearing from my tribe Brian, is that, because we encourage people to get the single bulb unit, and slowly add exposure to the sort of therapy, and you can adjust the time, and the closeness proximity of the red light to you. So again, let me welcome you Brian, we’d love to talk more about near-infrared. The male MMA fighter, the husband reported that it actually improves his responsiveness in his fights sort of a kind of a flow state. So we’re here for you to reach out to us, we have a lot of resources to get you what you need or help you just with answers and help you in your own research and deciding what’s the best product for you. So Ayurvedic medicine as it applies to the medicinal dyeing of fabrics for health benefit. So two things I’d like you to help us out with Brian, could you explain some of the other conditions and symptoms that people are reporting favorable response with your sauna? And all that historical information just informs a little bit what we’re doing now. Other coming up for next year? That’s critical. Say hi to Jackie for me. There’s this guy named [Fincen 00:24:34] in the early 1900s, that was reporting that his patients that were exposed to red light exhibited significantly better recovery from smallpox infection. Yes, I’d like to focus on that. This is 2018, transcranial low-level laser therapy for depression and Alzheimer’s. Yes, cool. One of the primary mitochondrial responses to the near-infrared light exposure is inflammation reduction at the cell level and at the tissue level. You definitely have to try for yourself to feel the difference. And if you do develop the disease, that your immune response is appropriate to the organism. How does the near-infrared light help? So the immune system response becomes overwhelmed and causes too much inflammation in the area can cause damage to the cells and the tissues and lead to organ failure. Once you start to use sauna therapy a lot. Really too or even that fireplace. It’s just one person, it’s one study, but it indicates the potential for light therapy as being this really high benefit, low risk way to deal with this stuff at home, and not have to get into a point where you have to go to the hospital as a preventative measure. And then I launch into my workday. I’m always coming out with new stuff, and we’ll definitely have some new stuff next year. It basically, when you shine near-infrared light on the neuron, it causes regenerative and restorative effects in the neuron. Brian: And never needed a ventilator. Heat intolerance is one of the many symptoms of MS. Because the nerves of MS patients are exposed, they are much more sensitive to heat. But for people living with certain autoimmune diseases, the summer can be an extremely unpleasant time of year. So most people are familiar with infrared saunas, or if they’re talking about light therapy, they’re familiar with LED light therapy. So really hard to develop. We now have much better insight and understanding. That hormetic stress, heat stress, incredibly helpful for me, followed by cold stress, also incredibly helpful and wonderfully invigorating. Brian: And like the cytokine storm that seems to be associated with Coronavirus infection. And I generally do mine for 40 to 45 minutes, I do my meditations in the sauna. Brian: So we have many customers now have reported. I say it’s this but also this just supports so many other aspects of your health in general. And what kind of reactions are you seeing in the people who would like to try the SaunaSpace? And that’s now on the website right now. We have dark chocolate. Yes, absolutely Terry. So naturals. And my best wishes to everybody out there who’s dealing with adversity right now, but we’re going to get through this. We now have much better insight and understanding. That sickness behavior dissipates. And this is used on the head for five or 10 minutes at a time or on the gut for a little bit longer period. What I call bad stress is anything that’s a manmade environmental, nervous stressor that we didn’t have, prior to modern technology electromagnetics, the things I’ve mentioned so far, those are bad stressors. You don’t feel good. So like therapy and it was a great one, getting outside early in the day so I can get some full spectrum light. This stuff is hand dyed in the ancient [inaudible 00:44:59] fashion. But they also, our DNA expects us to rest, to eat, and have some play time, to have some recreation time with the people or person that you love. That’s a reflection of microglia activation in the Brain. But it’s just everything. What are you doing for your diet? So we’ve heard that a lot. But it’s almost like a cognitive dissonance because your eyes don’t see a bear or a tiger that you had to run away from. In the beginning, it was a very pre collage design. And when we do a meditative practice, or just some kind of mental calming exercise, which by the way, is an amazing to do in the sauna. And so the day rode my bike, my kids are crying, my wife’s crying, I’m crying. And in a good way, it really… After I do sauna morning, I have more desire to eat well, follow more of a Whals protocol type [inaudible 00:41:16]…. There are more than 100 autoimmune diseases, including conditions such as celiac disease, type 1 diabetes, and psoriasis. Well we’ve always had. His hypoxia of his tissues went down. One guy described his feeling of loss of breathe, inability to breath while he described because he felt he was drowning. And it’s such a safe approach. It’s been a crazy year for everybody. Brian: Turmeric has anti inflammatory benefits. Now, what I’m hearing from my tribe Brian, is that, because we encourage people to get the single bulb unit, and slowly add exposure to the sort of therapy, and you can adjust the time, and the closeness proximity of the red light to you. But we know in terms of light therapy, and using near-infrared light, to trigger mitochondrial systems and to do healing, there’s over 5,000. And that added more tools to everyone’s toolkit for what they could do to create the most optimal environment for yourselves. But we finally got that rolling out. Brian: Yes, absolutely. Turmeric has anti inflammatory benefits. It’s presumed that one of the really big issues with it is the cytokine storm, which also folks in the autoimmune community. I just had them on our Instagram Live and…. Brian: They’re super pretty. That’s just… And that’s the perfect scenario right there. We’re going to through this together. [inaudible 00:38:03]brain. They just want that to blend into their surroundings. There’s something I actually learned just recently, there’s a 3,000 year old Egyptian hieroglyphics showing Egyptian husband and wife holding their three children under the sun as heliotherapy, sun therapy to heal something. So if as long as we can have a period where ourselves can rest, recover, rebuild from that stress, it appears to be much less harmful and potentially, in that hormetic way, beneficial. It’s presumed that one of the really big issues with it is the cytokine storm, which also folks in the autoimmune community. And I was assigned to a new job that have to take in six months. And your body is interpreting that as an environmental stressor. And then Jackie says, “Hold that towel higher.” We have to keep things socially appropriate when on our Instagram channel. Another thing to keep in mind is that if you have autoimmune hypothyroidism, which around 90% of us with hypothyroidism do, then this can cause us to swing between hypo and hyper symptoms, causing intolerance to the heat and cold, so should you be having a Hashimoto’s flare from this, it can cause increased intolerance to temperatures. Me … But the current problem we have, the big health public health issue we have with Coronavirus right now, it’s definitely not going away. Some of these folks with long haulers have mental health issues with more anxiety, more depression, more problems with attention memory and brain fog. So it has the potential to damage many different organs in the body. So the immune cells come in, they do their job of attacking the organisms of recognizing what parts of our bodies have been damaged by cold stress, by heat stress, by chemical stress or infection stress. Instead of the one that you have next to you where there’s no stainless steel mesh, this now has basically this stainless steel mesh cage, and this is locked in here. And if the glass breaks, if the bulb breaks or something like that, all that stuff is kept in safe inside. And what happens with cytokine storm. Individuals with food intolerance are unable to properly process certain foods in the digestive tract – think lactose in cow’s milk or histamine in fermented foods. Wahls Protocol Health Practitioner Directory, Neufit offers a solution for patients who have lost function due to Multiple Sclerosis, Light Therapy for Autoimmune and neurological conditions, Inflammatory cytokines and the inflammation process. But most of our customers are reporting, “This is a gentler sauna, it’s more tolerable allows me to sweat more easily at a lower air temperature, at the same time, I get my sweating response faster, and I get my session done faster.” And then…, Dr. Wahls: So many people with multiple sclerosis or a neurologic disorder have heat intolerance. We want you and your family to thrive so that we can continue our collaborations. Where people focus on not too much. And this is something that we’ve had for a long time. According to one study, people with celiac disease were … When I do my sauna in the morning, I get out and it’s absolutely a calibrating effect on the day. And let’s strengthen the host. He had improved cognition. Researchers know that the sun can trigger lupus in some people who were already on track to get the disease. The good stress and bad stress. Usually, autoimmune flare ups have an external trigger. This is 2018, transcranial low-level laser therapy for depression and Alzheimer’s. So the immune system response becomes overwhelmed and causes too much inflammation in the area can cause damage to the cells and the tissues and lead to organ failure. And what Brian’s teaching us is some of the chemical pathways that science is figuring out that are impacted by this gentle hormesis. And they began to atrophy. https://www.verywellhealth.com/autoimmune-disease-symptoms-3232847 Brian, can you comment a little bit more about the single bulb unit? Heat and/or Cold Intolerance. I will say hi for you to everybody else. Vitamin D, a proper diet, lots of sauerkraut and kimchi. They know what that is. Brian: Yes, it’s pretty. I believe you can still see that on Instagram. And so I began talking about heat and cold and saunas. And of course, to me. We have to learn how to be sure that we’re doing everything that we can, so that we can be resilient and we can thrive in this current environment. It’s rescue way. So stress is not evil, continuous stress, incredibly evil. But we’re still keeping that really broad spectrum component that has been used for a long time to treat infectious disease as it were. And sometimes I even indulge in a sauna in the evening as well. Well, we certainly want you eating well. And the overall function, I actually wanted to bring up one study that’s fairly recent. And so you can sit and surround yourself with the anti inflammatory powers of turmeric while you’re inside of it. Those with autoimmune diseases have a highly sensitive and reactive immune … Mood elevates and the desire for being up and around increases. Brian: And then just at a high level, just the way I feel about it. And whatever it is, and I and it’s just this calming, again calibrating, optimizing effect that really is immediate for me. And then certainly in the afternoon in the evening, have an exposure to red light very helpful. But I feel I’m channeling something in the universe, because in spite of a lot of challenges and adversities we’re growing, we’re succeeding, we’re helping more people, I think we’re providing more access to sauna therapy, to more people than ever in terms of our solution and how widely usable it is. Those with heat intolerance may have a disorder called dysautonomia that affects their autonomic nervous … Those with autoimmune disorders have a highly sensitive and reactive immune system. So there’s been a long tradition of heat stress, followed by some cold stress, followed by that rest and recovery period where your body can fully reset. But essentially, he said that he didn’t have any of those lingering effects after the seven or eight day point of loss of sense of taste and smell that a lot of people reporting is really just remaining for a long time. And instead, we continue to call in the cells that do the dissolving work. So what are you observing in your tribe? Heat intolerance and sweating are symptoms more commonly linked to hyperthyroidism (an overactive thyroid). Because we know there are many more people with persisting symptoms after getting the CV*rus. Sometimes I get worked up. And my best wishes to everybody out there who’s dealing with adversity right now, but we’re going to get through this. And so what we’re doing here is we’re trying to… With SaunaSpace, with our custom made thermal light bulb is that we’re trying to mimic as closely as possible that spectrum from the sun. Plus, you can’t get little hands in here. That’s what our DNA expects. But tell us about everything in the neurology and mental health [inaudible 00:09:15]. Brain inflammation, which leads to these alterations in mood, desires for inactivity, depression state, and as the inflammation levels decline in the bloodstream, and then there’s less activation of the microglia in the brain. Brian:… and so forth. The question is, why? Brain fog is often associated with the last symptom we just looked at, depression. That has real effects there that you start to temper your mind. And that ties into some of the immune topics. In the neuro psychiatric realm, or just in general? And if you have access… I certainly think a near-infrared sauna can be a very helpful part of making it more likely that you’ll have a mild disease course. When someone is experiencing Hashimoto’s related symptoms, such as sensitivity to heat, a flare-up can abruptly worsen their reduced ability to regulate body temperature. This is kind of the executive color. So we just came out with this is the… We improved the light guard to be basically have a child lock and be safer or more functional. So it’s been quite remarkable in terms of their healing journey. And that led to his remarkable healing and restoration, transforming his personal health. How does the sauna help? And he has a really interesting healing journey that perhaps Brian’s going to share with us. If we go to bed in bed rest, that is an incredibly destructive process, my bones begin dissolving, becoming weaker, having less calcium, magnesium in the bones, my muscles are less effective. They’re super pretty. Brian: Yes, I’d like to focus on that. And there’s so much more. Stress, a little bit of stress, mild to moderate stress, followed by a recovery period is transformative for your health. This is part of how my team is able to produce so many informational resources at no cost to you. You adjust for 20 or 30 minutes a session, but very gently, one light. And we’re offering that free to everybody that has basically from 2016 to just a few months ago type model of sauna. That’s what I try to teach folks is, we want to work at the cellular level, we want to work at improving the micro environment for ourselves. Heat intolerance has a variety of potential causes. Dr. Wahls: Yes. Do you have any fun, interesting projects you want to tell us about? And apparently, a lot of general health improvement things and immune related things, and also mental health things. So do you have any of your folks with your clients who are in the long haulers that are using near-infrared saunas? I believe he has 35 members of his team now that manufacture these units. And the problem is it comes up, it’s too fast, and we have difficulty turning it back down and resolving that excessive inflammation. In 2008 SaunaSpace founder Brian needed to make a decision: fill prescriptions for acne, insomnia, and adrenal fatigue, or take a chance with Near Infrared (NIr) Sauna Therapy, as recommended by an alternative medicine doctor. We’re going to through this together. And if you follow a certain schedule to manage your symptoms, changes in daily routines can be difficult. They just want that to blend into their surroundings. And its impact on physiology, its impact on our immune health. And I look forward to continuing to collaborate with you. It was a job that I knew I couldn’t possibly do physically. They still have cough, they’re short of breath, they have fatigue. That’s what our DNA expects. And this is used on the head for five or 10 minutes at a time or on the gut for a little bit longer period. And so that was another whole new level of my healing journey. And when we do a meditative practice, or just some kind of mental calming exercise, which by the way, is an amazing to do in the sauna. We’d love for people to get into the SaunaSpace sauna and have all four lights on and do a full 20 or 30 minutes session. He came down with C*VID in April and he had a whole journey that he discusses about it on his Instagram. Thank you for the wonderful introduction. So we want a little bit of stress, followed by that rest and recovery period. Which by the way, I’ve been using now I think, for a couple of years, I really enjoy my sauna. But of course, you don’t have to do the cold shower if you don’t feel like it. And that’s a big part of our disease process. But it’s been a long development. How do we respond to stress? And the other thing that’s really interesting, Brian is, as part of having a progressive disorder in my physicians had always told me that functions, once lost are going to be gone forever. Then I come out and I do a five-minute cold shower. The most powerful thing that you can do to improve your health. Near-infrared light therapy, sauna therapy, meditative practice, actual measurable break from the electromagnetic stress that’s out there. Brian: They find us on sauna.space. With carrying the oxygen and releasing the oxygen. Sometimes I get worked up. Autoimmune diseases are on the rise in a significant way. So if you care about fibromyalgia, you care about skin, you can search that see what other people are experiencing. Yes, it is such a crucial point too. Dr. Wahls: That’s really wonderful. There’s a couple MMA fighters that are using our product right now. The Content is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. I think it’s immediate for a lot of people too. This is more of a fun aesthetic thing but the sauna is now available in five different colors. It makes you feel good. So what are you observing in your tribe? Medication. Instead of the one that you have next to you where there’s no stainless steel mesh, this now has basically this stainless steel mesh cage, and this is locked in here. And what happens with cytokine storm. Heat intolerance is a common issue for patients with fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), and autoimmune disease. That’s why I use the sauna every day. But there’s a lot more things going on. Had my own health problems, discovered the solution. And then certainly in the afternoon in the evening, have an exposure to red light very helpful. And if you need to read a book or whatever, I find it to be very accessible. And so as I spent a lot of time thinking about the interventions that I’ve created for my protocol that I’ve used in my clinics, my clinical trials, I put it through that evolutionary biology lens Brian. Really too or even that fireplace. Is there a way in modern technologies to imitate that? And the results of that was his pneumonia index improved so dramatically, and his inflammation went down so dramatically that he walked out of the hospital. And I think that’s part of why it just feels good, whether it’s…. Yes. People are at much more risk of going on to what’s called fibrosis or scarring. And I think you are getting outside, are you getting fresh air? When you don’t have this daily stress from the sun, this good stress of this light or at something you don’t you’re not going to feel as good. But we finally got that rolling out. I’ve got a couple quick product updates. I want you to be happy, I want you to be successful. Everybody out there. The biggest resources are customer reviews, you can search those. See MEDICAL DISCLAIMER for additional information. Seek appropriate treatment and follow instructions for any autoimmune disease you have. I think it’s immediate for a lot of people too. I would remind our viewers if you want to see Terry using her sauna, Doctor Wahls using her sauna. Whether it’s focus or patience or reading or whatever, or honestly sometimes I’m irritable. So you dye a T shirt with turmeric and you wear that. So it’s been quite remarkable in terms of their healing journey. Just in the sense that we have the opportunity to see what would happen with customers who ended up getting C*VID positive or contracting the CV*rus infection. Slowly but surely what we’ve seen from the Wahls Warrior community, but also in more generally, our customers that are dealing with autoimmune stuff is that they can slowly work from this one bulb, up to eventually doing two bulbs in the sauna. Brian: You hit the nail on the head. So I still hadn’t latched on to the future. And that really astonished me and got me excited. Muscle and Joint Pain – Aches, pains, stiffness, tightness, and proneness to injury with even light … It’s all about titration. Some patients may sweat extremely easily, while others may not sweat at all. Now Brian is the founder of SaunaSpace. And it’s just it’s like you say it, it’s a constant stress that never goes away. And how people who are…. So it’s an incandescent type of sauna very unique to what we do. So it’s like you said, we want it to work, but we don’t want an exaggerated response. What we do here, it’s using broad spectrum infrared light. Really what I love most about you, Terry, is you never had a past theory in approach to things. And it was just kind of a quirk of karma that I am here today, because this is not where I intended to be necessarily at that point. They know what that is. My brain, if I’m not using my brain, that begins to atrophy as well. We have so much resources on there. Things aren’t going away. And then we end up with a scar as opposed to correctly built structures. They are helping calm down that response by helping detox inflammatory proteins, but also providing some kind of check and balance to the immune system. I’m just a little bit better at all of the things I’m doing. The same for you and the rest. So that’s really what we’re all about at SaunaSpace is we would like you to consider our near-infrared light therapy sauna as an essential tool to hit many of these things at the same time in the same 20 minutes. Dr. Wahls: Well, we certainly want you eating well. So it’s an incandescent type of sauna very unique to what we do. The constant stresses are harmful. This is … That’ll be marketed pretty soon on the website. Brian: Thank you so much, Terry. Were your biggest symptoms of heat sensitivity and heat intolerance rashes, fatigue, migraine, feeling lightheaded and dehydrated? So we figured out a way to yarn dye it and it just looks really gorgeous. Is there a way in modern technologies to imitate that? Used it for myself had a really amazing healing journey without the use of drugs or pharmaceutical remedies. So they’re very inflammatory. It was just one study with this guy who had advanced C*VID in the hospital, and severe pneumonia. That was also an improvement in the design for children or supervising people who have less bodily awareness, have more brain fog. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. Let’s dive all into that. It’s very impressive. No, to my tribe, what Brian and I are talking about is this phase called resolution. Many Wahls Warriors with autoimmune conditions have heat intolerance and miss out on the benefits of light and sauna therapy. Well, I am so excited today to talk about Brian. So we have indigo blue. But I have to have enough of a recovery period. I found this recent study where there’s an interesting effect of the mitochondrial stimulation by near-infrared light that results in monoamine neurotransmitter production. The link between celiac disease and hives. And then finally, we have our super special artists in hand dyed turmeric canvas. So if as long as we can have a period where ourselves can rest, recover, rebuild from that stress, it appears to be much less harmful and potentially, in that hormetic way, beneficial. But it’s really been known for quite some time that… Let me just read this out to you. What we’re doing. That’s just… And that’s the perfect scenario right there. 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