But the main cause of Venezuela's problems dates back to Maduro's predecessor's regime led by Hugo Chávez. I want to see if every individual can lay their own water lines, or fight off our enemies or educate their own children, that employers also need depend on too one day. And as time goes by more and more socialist programs. Soviet style Socialism was and is a disaster, but Social Democracy and Democratic Socialism of various sorts work very well for nearly all of our allies, and offer happier populations and apparently longer lives than our particular form of Capitalism. @Rob -- I don't know what your nation is - I'm guessing England or Canada -- but certainly here in the US, at least in my state: The government DOES OWN THE SNOWPLOW, MAINTAIN THE SNOWPLOW and OPERATE THE SNOWPLOW. We are superficial people, if we just don't use the word, somehow we think we are something different that what we claim. identifies as a democratic socialist and has the full backing of the D.S.A. The rest is a slippery slope. Here are some examples to help put things into perspective. Under the charismatic leadership of Eugene V. Debs in 1912, 160 councilmen, 145 aldermen, one congressman, and 56 mayors, including Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Berkeley, California, and Schenectady, New York, were elected as Socialists. --pay your employees barely enough to survive while you sail in your yacht to escape any guilt that might inconvenience you. The truth might lay more in the middle where the Swedes toe the line between social democratic policies, democratic socialism, and capitalism. Or for our military. Have all the facts!!! Democratic Socialism is only one form of socialistic thought.   Most have mixed economies that incorporate socialism with capitalism, communism, or both. For example, # 2: The USA has not been a capitalist state in the general sense for 100 years. Trump and his sycophantic followers deserve every bit of hate they receive, but this is written with the same tone as Trumps tweets. Examples of socialism in the United States include public utilities, cooperatives, Internet service, health care centers and public land development. Big surprise, they refused to hear or consider the facts that socialist programs were quite popular in the U.S. The plows are not maintained even though the budget is there and spent. --you can still make a billion dollars It goes something like this. This is socialism… and this isn't. The roads may get plowed but probably not. The five Nordic countries—Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland—have strongly socialist systems. In Socialism there is no private business or profit (hence their planned economy, price controls, monopolization of everything and quota system) . During Donald Trump’s State of the Union speech, many of the old, white, Republican Senators and Representatives must have gotten more exercise than in weeks, jumping to their feet to applaud almost every sentence of the endless rhetoric. If you have your money in a federal credit union, odds are it’s a co-op, that is SOCIALISM, in its purest definition. Like always in all ways lets just justify your point by re-defining the definition of socialism ! As has already been (accurately) stated, ....."you can't have a government this big that controls this much and not be a socialist country....", it's a contradiction terms to say otherwise. Lets take Snow Plowing in America for example. Several socialist (or socialist-leaning) leaders have followed Allende’s example in winning election to office in Latin American countries. No sooner had social security started accumulating a lot of zeros and the government raided it for who knows what expense. I have news for the Donald: The United States—like every other country with an advanced economy, such as the U.K., Germany, France, and Japan—is already a partly socialist country, with a mixed economy and many government programs that serve the public good. C) Maintain any equipment in the Hospitals. a) Own the Snow Plows Just because the word "social" is in it doesn't make expenditures or government programs in Capitalist countries "socialist". You are all so illogical, we're a socialist country because our constitution protects individual rights by law(E Pluribus Unum), freedom does not exist but as a fairy tail. Whenever you drive on a highway, drive across a bridge, get electricity from a dam, or go to a school or hospital, you’re probably partaking in American Socialism. Everywhere you look, you'll discover socialist programs in all facets of American life. Charities. Therefore snow plowing is not Socialist. The country is run by the United Socialist Party and headed by Nicolás Maduro. Barry Goldwater considered Jack Kennedy a socialist and called Lyndon Johnson one as well. Americans donate more money to charities than any other nations. Defining socialism in 2020 election cycle 04:59. I guess you don’t know about worker co-ops? It destroys personal initiative – a fruit of … We need to decide by facts not hysteria about what is in the best interest of the majority os people. The recent covid giveaway of trillion$ to fossil extraction and farmers drenching our food with glyphosate is insane. In fact, they are being used by most of his followers. Socialism is a dirty word in America. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014. What a great article! This is happening now and has happened before. c) Maintain the Snow plows America runs on Socialism. In America, Democratic socialism in the United States is as much about expanding democracy as it is anything else. People’s Action is a nonprofit and depends on your financial support. It is invertible. d) Control the labour that drives the snow plows. Your understanding of Marxist Socialism fails to take into account the fact that Socialism PREDATED Marx by many years as an idea and was simply incorporated into his philosophy. Medicare-For-All would simply extend this to the rest of the population. Essentially tax dollars are pooled collectively and are used to pay private businesses for a service that benefits everyone but the means and labour are privately controlled and profit exists so it cannot be socialist. Most of those programs were concocted just to buy votes. Unfortunately, people like Rob and others on this string of comments are splitting hairs when it becomes to what is "real' SOCIALISM. I like to ask when they are giving up their Medicare and social security. It takes away the American spirit of working for something,” he said, and he offered an example. With the 2020 U.S. presidential election around the corner, there is a … He is right you know, or do you plan on committing a genocide? Corporations are helped by the state budget, which is supplied with public tariffs. The good old U.S. of A. has always been a socialist nation and no one should feel shame or anger at the country’s socialist programs and policies. Government is the only entity in America that can defend us from foreign enemies and our tax dollars are used for every second of it. The United States has a mixed economy. Is it just the bad word “Social”? The country has enacted some democratic socialist policies like their Literacy Campaign and their Zero Hunger Project. Content licensed under a Creative Commons 3.0 License. When Socialism Was Tried in America—and Was a Smashing Success For much of the 20th century, Milwaukee was run by socialists—and Time magazine … Politicians have to promise more government to get elected/relected. The Democratic Socialists of America want a … Content licensed under a Creative Commons 3.0 License. The snow plowing is a poor example if you are trying to say it isn't an example of socialism. We just don't us the actual word "socialist" in our nation's title. Rather than pining for a pure socialism, socialism’s American supporters seem to instead look to social democratic countries with market economies as examples for what the United States could and should be. That would be the worst thing that could happen. For example, many opponents claim that former President Barack Obama, of the United States of America, is a socialist because he takes the position that the government should be involved in many aspects of people's lives, and because he believes that people have a shared responsibility to each other. Trump’s false proclamation that America “will never be a socialist country” was an attempt to resurrect the McCarthyite red-baiting of his childhood in order to put his thumb on the capitalist side of the scale favored by the oligarchs in the ongoing debate over how much socialism and how much socialism America should have. The reason socialist ideas have grown so strong is that we now have at least two generations who have been taught to hate America’s form of … Socialism has … Alicia ...I can't stop laughing at your "pig" saying! If the plow does hit the road it will be days late, the road won't be plowed full width and most certainly not to the end of the road. By this defintion, Social Security is a "socialist" program: it's a government-run pension system that cuts out private money managers. --get a giant tax cut Not only did it provide them with a mechanism to make requests in a noisy environment or until their verbal vocabulary had sufficiently developed, it impressed upon them that a child's early life was going to be primarily a learning process. This country is a republic and not a democracy again because our constitution is the law of the land that represents both majority and minority citizens of this country which means neither a republic or democracy represents freedom because both concepts are based on laws which inhibits freedom. There are different forms of socialism but for this blog will use the form of democratic socialism advocated by Socialist parties in Western Europe. Socialism used to be a dirty word in American politics, but in today's Democratic Party, you'd hardly know it. In spite of its efforts, the country has devolved of late into anti-democratic ways, which has caused it to lose support of the Democratic Socialists of America. It would be virtually impossible to find a better example of socialism here in the United States than the public schooling systems that exist in every U.S. state. Angola is one of the few countries in Sub-Saharan Africa considered to be socialist. Take out any amount they wish do as they please and will that money to their hiers. Gentlemen it is pure socialism, Look at the labor laws, state aid throughout the state. Today, the Socialist Republic of Vietnam is run by the Communist Party of Vietnam, and Brazil's Social Liberal Party is a far-right-wing organization causing more confusion for democratic socialists around the world. Socialist economics involves centralized planning of the economy (contrary to free market capitalism). Education, including higher Education, should be a “public good”. Even the experiments that have been crammed down America's throat. Corporate socialism is a source of the wealth inequality in America. Our schools and teacher have failed people like Rob and it shows. The basic gist of U.B.I. Do you think right wing Republicans would agree to get rid of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and a host of other SOCIALIST PROGRAMS in the name of Capitalism? B) Educate the Doctors. Former Socialist Countries . Conservatives support government subsidies for agriculture and the oil energy (that’s socialism) while many progressives believe this is “reverse welfare” for the rich and want to reduce them. One of the most divisive and commonly misunderstood terms is democratic socialism, which is often lobbed into other categories like communism. Sanders is an FDR Democrat. They would if they knew that had they been allowed to take that same money and invest it themselves they would have amassed a fortune of Millions of Dollars that they could do with as they wish. Social Security, Medicare, farm subsidies, public schools, minimum wage, the New Deal, the Federal Housing Administration, and more have their roots in democratic socialist ideals. What it is is PUBLIC GOOD. I wonder where you would go without any roads or bridges. In the United States, the Communist Party USA was formed in 1919 from former adherents of the Socialist Party of America. is the youngest woman to ever be elected to Congress and follows in the footsteps of longtime democratic socialist Bernie Sanders, who also calls for a higher minimum wage, universal health care, and free college tuition. Unlike their parents and grandparents, these young progressives were children, or not yet born, when the Red-baiting of the Cold War made socialism a dirty word. So what is your problem than thinking Medicare for all would make this country “Socialist”? Progress of socialism The Socialist Party in America was born and grew dramatically between 1900 and 1912. Stripped of the Red-baiting and name-calling, the real debate isn’t between capitalism vs. socialism, but about the appropriate balance between the two. (he was also openly called a class traitor) https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/sep/22/barack-obama/obama-roosevelt-socialist-communist/. Nor would our right wing friends want to get rid of subsidies for gas, oil, and farms. The term “false compassion” is used for two reasons. My city owns the plows, no private company, same with parks. And finally the military whose primary purpose today is to secure the oil and poppy fields. as an example, there are a set of basic tenets that most subscribe to: higher minimum wages, universal health care, free education, workers controlling the means of production, and an innate belief in democracy. We are still a capitalist nation. The health care system is publicly funded and provides care through socialized health insurance plans for every citizen. Geesh ! As the leader of the Labour party, the main opposition party in the United Kingdom (U.K.), Jeremy Corbyn is a self-identified democratic socialist who firmly believes in an end to “greed-is-good” capitalism. OurFuture and Progressive Breakfast are projects of, https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/sep/22/barack-obama/obama-roosevelt-socialist-communist/, https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014. The Government does not own the means of production (company) nor does it control the labour. Your insistence on bringing up age and race into this also shows your lack of emotional and educational maturity. Trump’s false proclamation that America “will never be a socialist country” was an attempt to resurrect the McCarthyite red-baiting of his childhood in order to put his thumb on the capitalist side of the scale favored by the oligarchs in the ongoing debate over how much socialism and how much socialism America should have. If you're on the left, you can point to Sweden as a bastion of socialist ideals with universal health care, free education, and vast welfare programs. It's all in the numbers. There are no countries that are 100% socialist, according to the Socialist Party of the United Kingdom. To the author of this article: Great job. The bottom line this; Senator Sanders is not calling for the end of Capitalism but like FDR ways to even the playing field of opportunities and social justice afforded to ALL members of society. All it amounts to, is pooled resources paid for in a community effort to ensure the necessities that a community including all us citizens including ourselves all rely on to live a safe prosperous lives as citizens, that any a advanced society would depend on for our survival as a nation. Using the D.S.A. Socialism, the dirtiest word in U.S. politics turns out to be as American as apple pie. So if you don’t like Socialist programs then shovel your own snow! Well no. The thought of the intellect of a brilliant young person going to waste because of being poor while a mediocre rich person goes to Harvard and gets “gentleman’ Cs makes me wonder if the mental resources ought to be wasted because the “nature of our Economy” makes Education a hand-out. Unless the means of production is owned and controlled by the proletariat its not socialism. In addition to the 17% of Americans who define socialism as government ownership of the means of production, other more traditional or historical views of socialism include those who say it … People who conflate Public Good aka Social Programs with Socialism have a collective IQ of 70. One myth that permeates the right-wing attack on socialism is that America was founded as a sort of libertarian paradise based on the free market ideas of Adam Smith. @Rob The government collects taxes (user fee of sorts) and uses that money (capital) to purchase a service (exchange) from a Privately Owned business. It may not be pure capitalism but it's definitely not socialism. as an example, proof that democratic socialism doesn't work, minus prescription drugs, glasses, and dental care, publicly funded and provides care through socialized health insurance plans, system to help draw women back into the workplace, health care and education for all its citizens, lose support of the Democratic Socialists of America. A socialist government would dictate what and how much these farmers grow/raise. A.O.C. Today, there are few if any developed countries that are … Didn’t the government take over the steel industry during WWII? I could go on and on. Why does the government have to assist people to buy homes? Let me add to some comments, your public utilities are SOCIALIST, programs, (ie, Flint, Michigan water problems began when they switched to a private company) Therefore, Medicare for all is just “A public good” as you call it. A) Own the Hospitals. Republicans are the ultimate NOT IN MY BACK YARD whiners. Why are the happiest people located in the crappiest climates? I will only use the programs to which I have (forced to) paid into over the years. You both get dirty, and the pig enjoys it. Snow removal is not done by private 3rd parties on state, and local roads. The so called squad like AOC and her friends need to move far, far, away, who are they to make decisions for our country. The answer is a loud NO. I have tried explaining this same topic to hardcore Trump followers. Agricultural and energy subsidies are likewise socialist programs. It's a reason why, among young people, socialism is as popular as capitalism. No one is going to tell me how to live my life or take my home and land away from me. For example, Nordic countries where government spending is between 40-50% of GDP. Medicare - a single-payer, government-run health insurance program for those over 65 - is too. This democratic socialist tenet is often compared with the single-payer system of America's neighbor to the north. We've been a socialist country starting with TR/FDR and the continuation of adding on layers of more and more government, through out the decades. Unless the Means of Production is on the Proletariat its not Socialist at all, this is literally the only need required for something to be considered Socialist, if it is not met than its not Socialist, understand how Marxist theory works. These socialist programs are in addition to the many public programs that exist to provide a social safety net. Call it socialism or public good we need more of it. Public Services in Capitalist countries (like America) are Capitalist, its a form of PUBLIC GOOD, they are not socialist. Its also an example of Capitalism as a private business is profiting from this service, taxes being used to pay for it are essentially a user fee of sorts and public good means everyone gets to benefit from those roads. They didn't really give a cr...ap about the people. One of the latest democratic socialist issues making headlines is the idea of a universal basic income (U.B.I.). Yahoo Answers is shutting down on May 4th, 2021 (Eastern Time) and beginning April 20th, 2021 (Eastern Time) the Yahoo Answers website will be in read-only mode. MORON! This was a good conversation and educational forme! Oh, and to Ebenezer Smith - I strongly recommend an article by one of your fellow Plutocrats. Another reason why socialism is bad for America is that socialism is largely based on false compassion, which results in a host of serious, though unintended, consequences. The whole idea of “creating the middle class” was a socialist concept. The best part about capitalism is incentive to work harder, but nobody wants to do that anymore. The minimum wage, maximum hour, and child labor laws that go back over a century are likewise "socialist" programs, in that the government intervenes in the capitalist market to require employers to meet minimum standards that might not be met in a pure, unregulated “free” market. Democratic socialists can be defined more broadly by a set of policy goals and philosophies regarding work and standards of living. Often pointed to as the boogeyman of all socialist policies, Venezuela's recent political history definitely tells a cautionary tale in many respects. Don't worry. If you do, do you REALLY think all the other billionaires will just go along, or do you plan to kill them to? Yes, Virginia, the United States is a socialist country. Everything in this article is 100% correct! In what was originally created as a system to help draw women back into the workplace, France's child care is known worldwide as one of the best. Schemes All intended to buy votes. Social Democracy can co-exist along side a free market, capital Economy. In Canada, health care is mostly free, minus prescription drugs, glasses, and dental care. The US has a ton of Socialist Policies for one 1.the US has a very well Funded Militray that is controlled by the Government. Rob's comments above show just how stupid and uneducated people are. is to give citizens a cash allowance to ensure they're living above the poverty line. I love hardcore Trumpets, stop reading Facebook, and read Marx, learn about the Haymarket Affair, stop watching FOX...please! For example, the U.S.S.R. stood for the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, but it was just a masked name for communism, which the D.S.A. When my children were in preschool (ages 3 and 4), they learned rudimentary sign-language. D) Control the labour that’s used in the Hospitals. They have been running a scheme for 30 or 40 years. The dictionary defines socialism as government control of the means of production.When we read that all we see are state-owned industries. A not-so exhaustive List of Examples of American Socialism Socialism is defined as a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. So, that little example is both ludicrous and wrong. Many progressives want to move towards a Medicare system covering all Americans, not just those over 65 (“Medicare for All”) while centrist Democrats want to protect the ACA which is a hybrid between private insurance and government insurance and regulation, and conservatives want to go back to the all-private system which pre-dated the ACA. Lets take this "logic and apply it to snow plowing for example. Never wrestle with a pig. Anything the government controls is wrought with corruption waste fraud and abuse. "Republicans support subsidies for agriculture and the oil energy (that's socialism)". Socialism has never world anywhere its been tried. AOC and her colleagues--not Donald Trump and old, white Republican politicians--represent the future. Its a "fear" tactic by the Right, and "Fear" works! Please watch FDR 2 minute speech on a Second Bill of Rights on YouTube. At its simplest, socialism calls for a nation's citizens to control at … Ask yourself are you hungry, do you have a roof over your head, can you provide children’s education, is your life safe where you live. 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